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« : Pet 01:58:17 06.06.2008. »
This is a reprint of something I posted at the Yahoo Alfa 75 group.


The warning lights on the ARC panel are:

Engine oil level warning light -

To fix, replace sensor with a tested second hand sensor
or replace sensor with 100 ohm resistor (actually leave the sensor in place but connect the wires from the ARC to a 100 ohm resistor instead.

Coolant level warning light -

There are two types of sensor (I think),

1/ a float on a wire with the switch in the cap.
2/ a black plastic tube with a white float at the bottom, the float has a 'ring' magnet in it and inside the tube is a circuit board with a reed switch (small glass capsule very fragile) on it. Reed switches are commonly used in house alarm systems for door/window switches. When the float is lifted by the coolant, the magnet keeps the reed switch closed.

Shorting the wires together will stop the ARC flashing however the switches can be repaired:

Type 1, - To fix, replace the float with a cork

Type 2, - To fix, on my 75 when the float was as high as it could go, it had actually gone above the point where the switch closed to a point where the switch opened again. I don't know why. To fix the switch, where the wires go in there is a thin plastic cover - pry this off. Next you will see some black glue, scrape this away around the edges (its only thin) and you should be able to remove the circuit board. The circuit board has two sets of two holes in it, one set with copper tracks going to them ( this is where the reed switch is ) and another set slightly higher. Moving the reed switch up to the second set of holes fixed my problem. WARNING reed switches are VERY fragile do not apply any force on the glass capsule, when bending the leads hold the lead with a pair of long nose plyers between the glass and the bend. Re-assemble then test with a meter.

Windscreen washer liquid level warning light -

To fix, shorting the wires together will stop the ARC flashing. Better yet, replace the float.

or Handbrake warning light -

or Brake pad, brake fluid level warning light -

To fix, a continuous circuit is formed from the ARC through each of the brake pad sensors and a relay switched by a float in the brake fluid reservoir. If this circuit is broken anywhere the ARC warning will flash. If you have brake pads without sensors the wires which go to the sensors must be shorted together.

(From Jon) Later models work in reverse where shorting will cause the annunciator to flash, the brake fluid sensor is wired in parallel and will cause both the stop globe and (!) lights to flash. There is no relay in later cars. As mentioned previously I had trouble with the brake light switch actuator. This problem can be diagnosed by placing your foot under the brake pedal and pushing the pedal up to see if the flashing stops. If this cures the problem it is simply a matter of adjusting the microswitch travel by means of the screw thread and locknut on the microswitch.(/Jon)

Parking lights and rear fog lights efficiency warning light. -

To fix, replace blown bulbs.

Stop lights bulbs/switch/fuse/connectors efficiency warning light -

To fix, replace blown bulbs/fuse, check connector to stop light switch, replace stop light switch.

(From Jon) Again it might be the travel on this switch that causes the problem. The ARC works by sampling the continuity or lack of in the various components of the braking system. For example each lamp circuit is sampled through a current resistor and the current is compared to a nominal value any departure from this value will cause the alarm to flash. It is a good idea to clean all contacts and use the correct wattage lamps in all circuits.(/Jon)

Warning lights warning light -

To fix, I have no idea

(From Jon) This is sensed by current flowing through all the warning lamps in the dashboard, not including the dimmed circuits.(/Jon)

Alternator warning light. -

To fix, repair Alternator.

(From Jon) The alternator warning light senses the direction of current flow in the alternator charge discharge circuit. When the ignition switch is turned on but the motor is not started ther is a current dumping resistor on the ARC circuit board to compensate, this resistor gets quite hot and may fail if the engine is not started for prolonged periods. in which case the alarm will flash continuously and the alternator will possibly be still OK. (/Jon)



(From Luca) Check fuses board, near pedals. Clean, check grounds. Probably that will solve all! (/Luca)


On top of these we also have three other warning lights.

In the Fuel Gauge we have the Low Fuel warning light.
In the Coolant Temp Gauge we have the Over Temp warning light.
In the Oil Pressure Gauge we have the Low Oil Pressure warning light.

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« Odgovori #1 : Pon 15:23:12 09.06.2008. »

Windscreen washer liquid level warning light -

To fix, shorting the wires together will stop the ARC flashing. Better yet, replace the float.




Ovo rješenje kod mene ne radi.

Zna li neko gdje mogu doči do žica is unutrašnjosti, jer kad se sadruže u onu veču cev ne nađem gdje se opet pojave?

Pa da ih možda sklopim negdje na početku.

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« Odgovori #2 : Pon 18:16:53 09.06.2008. »
ja sam jenodstavno istekao ali nisam kratko spojio i ne svijetli. imas verziju koja radi tako, kao i onaj za nivo antifriza

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« Odgovori #3 : Pon 18:31:48 09.06.2008. »
A zasto ja to nebi izvadija,sutnija nogon i ubacija kontrole ventilacije unutra da mogu maknit donji dio konzole jerbo smeta desnoj nozi  :wiii: :wiii: :wiii:




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« Odgovori #4 : Pon 18:55:31 09.06.2008. »
zato sto mi treba pepeljara a i nije lose znat kad kad ti je pobacalo antifriz van. kontrole za ventilaciju? treba ti on/off za ventilator, i sajla za otvarat ventil grijanja. mijesanje zraka i usmjeravanje je beskorisno.

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« Odgovori #5 : Pon 19:50:21 09.06.2008. »
Jednom sam več probao otvorit onu plastiku na vrhu "floata" ali mi se čini da bude sve raspalo ako budem pregrub.


Ako nekome smeta da mora svaki put pritiskat onaj mali gumb, da se ugasi najvece crveno svetlo na ARCu, je najlakse da promjeni zaruljo sa jednom koja ne radi.

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« Odgovori #6 : Pon 20:15:56 09.06.2008. »
meni je sve ispravno i rade lampice na oba auta  :D:

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« Odgovori #7 : Uto 08:07:02 10.06.2008. »
Mene jebu dvije lampice- ona od razine ulja u motoru i onaj uskličnik od kočnica. Sve sam pregledao, ulja ima, pločice nove, ulja za kočnice ima (mjenjao sam i plovak u posudi) i neće da ga jebeš!

Najviše mi je sranje zbog ove od količine ulja, jer stalno pokazuje da ga nema!
" suknjice kratke pa pokrivaju kao i alfin fabricki branik sto pokriva zadnji deo auta,vidi se do prednjeg lonca,tako i ove a kad dignu ruke da se vesele,kao na naglom kocenju,vidi se ceo patos,do motora ha,ha,ha "

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« Odgovori #8 : Uto 10:42:00 10.06.2008. »
Mene jebu dvije lampice- ona od razine ulja u motoru i onaj uskličnik od kočnica. Sve sam pregledao, ulja ima, pločice nove, ulja za kočnice ima (mjenjao sam i plovak u posudi) i neće da ga jebeš!

Najviše mi je sranje zbog ove od količine ulja, jer stalno pokazuje da ga nema!

su ti zice sa plocica dobro spojene. koji sistem imas onaj sa 2 zice ili 1

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« Odgovori #9 : Sri 14:05:52 11.06.2008. »
Sve sam ih pokidao i izolirao izlaze žica od auta prema pločicama!
" suknjice kratke pa pokrivaju kao i alfin fabricki branik sto pokriva zadnji deo auta,vidi se do prednjeg lonca,tako i ove a kad dignu ruke da se vesele,kao na naglom kocenju,vidi se ceo patos,do motora ha,ha,ha "

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« Odgovori #10 : Sri 14:13:35 11.06.2008. »
i jeli iko uspio popraviti ARC
 :elol:  :elol:  :elol:
jednostavno, nemoguce..
uspio sam svesti na 2 ili 3 lampice...i ondah odustao...
prerezao zice i dovidjento... :FinouCat_03:  :FinouCat_03:

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« Odgovori #11 : Sri 14:41:32 06.08.2008. »
hehe...

ja imam drugi trip... moram da snimim... kad upalim auto a ne sacekam da se pogase lampice dobijem light show... ali ko kineska nova godina... dakle samo se sve nasumicno pali... sve... a kad sacekam 1 sek da se pogase lepo pre nego sto okrenem kljuc sve radi kako treba... trip...

a to za kocnice mi se desava na TS-u... samo se upale u sred voznje... i onda nestanu 1 km dalje... pa se onda opet uplae za 10 min... totalno nasumicno... vec godinu dana... odustao sam od trazenja problema...

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« Odgovori #12 : Pon 12:53:15 01.09.2008. »
Zadnjih par dana sam se opet dao u borbu s vjetrenjačama, odnosno s ARC-om, u zadnje vrijeme su mi gorile tri lampice, nivo ulja, vode i kočnice.

Vodu sam riješio na slijedeći način, kako su mi oba plovka koja imam porozna i rade samo par sati, ostavio sam jedan na terasi da se suši zadnjih petnaestak dana i lakirao ga bezbojnim lakom za felge u pet slojeva i za sad nivo vode radi, već tri dana  :yahoo:

Kabele senzora za nivo ulja sam negdje zagubio pod haubom, jer sam se sjećao da smo precvikali onaj utikač s dvije ženske stopice i to izolirali i zaljepili za nešto kad smo vadili TS, kako je od tog prošlo dvije godine nikako nisam letimični pogledom uspjevao pronaći ih i danas sam ih napokon locirao, produžio kabel, stavio dvije stopice uspio priključit i nevjerovatno ali senzor RADI  :bravo: :wiii: :wiii:, iako sam poučen iskustvom da ti senzori rijetko rade već pripremio otpornik od 100 ohma da glumi senzor  :D:
Isključila se i ta lampica, ne znam još kako da riješim led diodu kočnice, ona se ponekad pali ponekad nije, precvikane su žice i izolirane jer sad imam kočnice sa V6 koje na pločicama imaju dvije žice a ja imam na karoseriji sistem s jednom, ima dovoljno tekučine za kočnice ali se mrska led dioda i dalje sporadično ponekad pali ponekad gasi, ne znam šta da s njom napravim  :tres: :tres:

Ali eto sveo sam ligt show na jednu led diodu koja se ponekad i ugasi pa imam ponekad i ispravan ARC  :lol: :lol:
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« Odgovori #13 : Pon 13:38:24 01.09.2008. »
meni se pale 2 lampice za kocnice istovremeno, ona za stop i za nivo kad lagano pritisnem kocnicu. jebe me zadnja ljeva stop lampa koja se kasnije upali pa ovaj blesavi. a za inikatore ja sam to sve odrezao i izolirao tak da mi se nista ne pali.

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« Odgovori #14 : Pon 14:15:42 01.09.2008. »
Evo riješio i ove kočnice, ponovo pročitao upute i skontao da trebaju bit kratko spojene žice od senzora pločica, legao ispod auta i skontao da sam to već davno i napravio, ali se je jedna žica otpustila, i trebalo je samo stegnut


SAD MI ARC RADI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Baš me zanima koliko će dugo radit, ja prognoziram da će sutra opet nešto zajebavat :DD::DD::DD:
« Zadnja izmjena: Pon 14:16:12 01.09.2008. sira »
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