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« Odgovori #45 : Pon 13:10:05 19.01.2009. »
a jel su i pozadi koiloveri il je amortizer odvojen od opruge.......?
uzzy ti imas samo prednji kit njihov......?
sta imas iza....?

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« Odgovori #46 : Pon 13:25:26 19.01.2009. »
Adjustable Suspension Special Offer

The adjustable set normal price is euro 1795
Now only in January 15% off
Or
Trade your non adjustable set for one of the all new adjustable ones
Euro 895 + your used set
(set must be in a good and fair condition)



Imaju negdje prodajno mjesto/zastupnika u Njemackoj? Nisam gledao na netu, mozda znas iz glave?!  :good:

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« Odgovori #47 : Pon 14:45:14 19.01.2009. »
Oni ti sad i jesu u Njemackoj,400m od ulaza na Ring
http://www.rsrnurburg.com/

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« Odgovori #49 : Uto 08:49:07 20.01.2009. »
Oni ti sad i jesu u Njemackoj,400m od ulaza na Ring
http://www.rsrnurburg.com/


Mislio sam na nas dio Njemacke, tj. Minken  ;)

nebitno vec sam dobio info  :good:

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« Odgovori #50 : Uto 11:08:41 20.01.2009. »
A na sta bi ti to stavija  :ruganje: :ruganje: :ruganje:

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« Odgovori #51 : Pon 12:56:19 26.01.2009. »

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« Odgovori #52 : Pon 15:29:50 02.02.2009. »
Nes ne valja,ne mogu ubacit linkove za djelove
« Zadnja izmjena: Pon 15:31:57 02.02.2009. Uzzy »

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« Odgovori #53 : Uto 00:15:26 03.02.2009. »
A na sta bi ti to stavija  :ruganje: :ruganje: :ruganje:

Polako, vidjet ces  ;)

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« Odgovori #54 : Uto 00:31:13 03.02.2009. »
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« Odgovori #55 : Uto 00:33:12 03.02.2009. »
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« Odgovori #56 : Uto 00:33:42 03.02.2009. »
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« Odgovori #57 : Uto 14:25:47 03.02.2009. »
Imao sam zanimljivu mail prepisku sa Ron Simonsom vezano za ovaj suspension kit i njegova usporedba sa Bilstein B6 vs. Koni vs. RSR suspension kit.

Pa Ron kaze u mailu:
At the moment we are building a 75 with a 3.700 cc 24V for a customer. Off course this will get our suspension solution as well.
As a budget solution the koni's yellow or red will never work. bilstein is ok but, when you coun't everything together it's a few hunderd euro's cheaper for not even half the performance.
It's for a reason we sell over 100 sets a year to all places in the whole world.


Poslao mi je i pun k... mailova od ljudi koji mu zahvaljuju na RSR ovjesu itd. itd. uglavnom marketing stvari ali iz prakse gdje ljudi pisu kako su setirali ovjes itd...

Evo i c/p white papera:

White paper:  Alfa Transaxle Handling issues


The effect of installing stronger springs and shocks

The standard setting of springs and anti roll bars on any transaxle is set for comfort, i.e. too much comfort for performance driving.
So the springs and anti roll bars are to soft for high performance driving.

Under cornering there will be weight transfer due to body roll. This  has a great negative effect on the geometry of the alignment of the car. Left/Right corner combinations mean a lot of roll and as a result loss of time. Pitch and squat mean the car has difficulties in breaking and also sprinting of the line.

After you install bigger (read stronger) anti roll bars and you want more improvement, than you must think of springs and shocks.

Originally the Alfa Transaxle was fitted with rather soft springs for a relatively high comfort level. The front has a system of torsion bars which are rather progressive. So due to a lot of suspension travel, the torsion bars beef up to respectable spring rates for street driving. For trackday or race applications you want to reduce suspension travel as much as possible. So these torsions are in fact useless since under reduced suspension travel, the rate of these springs are no more than 30kg or 75pounds.

Koni and the likes
Back in pre historic times (in formula one 30 years is an endless time), koni and the likes saw the first transaxle, the alfetta 4cylinder and they developed shocks on that car. From driving the car in modern times we know, they never ever adjusted the design and even after the GTV4 and later GTV6 cylinder than the 75 (Milano’s) had the same koni yellow or bilstein.
(btw koni’s are not adjustable. The system is intended to compensate for wear of the shock in time).
Than the springs. For the rear there is a solution for a stronger spring. For the front options are limited to bigger bars from for example shankle. Most of the time people ‘forget’ about the front spring for the convenience since there’s no easy solution.
The result of a car fitted with these aftermarket spings/shocks combinations is a car that is only beefed up at the rear with technology of at least 30 years ago.

Our championship winning race Group A GTV6 is the proof that you don’t make it with torsions alone in modern racing. The car has huge torsion bars but these are still assisted with 500 pound coilover springs.

So coilovers are the key to better handling and are the way to go to get a car that is in the league of a Porsche GT3RS and BMW M3CLS in terms of handling. So with our suspension systems the car is firm but not harsh. Has incredible amounts of grip and yes, is able to drive on two wheels in the corners with the right shoes.

With over 200 systems sold already, we can truly say this is the most popular system for releasing the potential of the Alfa Transaxle cars and bring it at the same level as modern reference sportscars.



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« Odgovori #58 : Uto 15:20:56 03.02.2009. »
sve je to krasno, i covjek namjerava prodat proizvod. ali ako je njemu a few hundret euros pickin dim, meni nije.

1300 eura vs 400eura( u najgorem slucaju) je velika razlika. razlika je naravno i u performansama. da je toliko los koni ili bilstein setup isto ne vjerujem, nije idealan ali za te novce nema bolje. postavlja se jos i pitanje, di iskoristit RSR ovjes? ako se mislis ozbiljno bavit onda da, ako mislis tjerat RSR do granica ( koje su iznad bilstein/koni) na otovrenoj cesti, onda po meni riskiras zivot, svoj i tudji, riskiras hrpu kazni itd.  da ne spominjem trkenljanje po gradu (zali boze para za takvo sto), jer ja i vecina drugih na forumu koristi aute svaki dan.

da skratim, rsr je vrhunska stvar koja kosta,ali za moje potrebe i financijske mogucnosti je koni/bilstein nesto sto si mogu priustit i iskoristit donekle. RSR ce doci u obzir ako budem trazio vise i ako budem imao love.

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« Odgovori #59 : Uto 15:41:40 03.02.2009. »
Ukratko,nemas para pa kenjas,a ako budes ima para kupit ces si set  :DD: :DD: :DD: